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E-METER: DEMO

OPENING: WHAT IS TO BE DONE ON COURSE

A lecture given by L. Ron Hubbard on the 1 December 1952A lecture given by L. Ron Hubbard on the 1 December 1952

This instrument you see here, if you didn’t know, is a demonstration model E-Meter. This is actually called an A-meter. Volney built this so that I could give demonstrations, so he could give demonstrations. It’s a projection model machine. He makes these, I believe, for sale, for teaching and so forth. And… It has, I notice here, the new scale on the back of it. And this machine is right up to date.

I just got a wonderful wire. Just got a wonderful wire from somebody, day or so ago, and they were going to send me a registered letter that had to be very secret about this whole thing and of course I’m expected and John and Helen are expected to sort of hang on the ropes waiting for this letter to appear and it just came just now. And that’s why I look so pale and frightened. Somebody has just run into one of the standard manifestations. They pick a pc off the street, you see, and they start running them and this pc gets the idea that… uh… he is practically the Prince of Darkness or something of the sort and it’s all a big plot.

Now, uh… if you want to know quite a bit about E-meters. The machine there is a very fancy and strange variety of Wheatstone Bridge. Volney breadboarded this thing up rather rapidly and spontaneously. He did it for Dianetics, and… ah… tells you something about that in the… his literature that he puts out with the machine. And he puts out as well a book I wrote on these called ELECTROPSYCHOMETRIC AUDITING.

Now they just start asking this; the person up to this moment has appeared perfectly a Homo sapiens. And they’re the Prince of Darkness from Venus or someplace you see and that there’s a terrible plot out against everybody in Scientology. And everybody better be very very careful to put up force screens so that nothing like this can get in and so. I’m going to send him back a letter. Uh… so… uh… you say you have some connection with the Prince of Darkness out there and you’re very worried about this. Who do you think I am?

This machine, actually measures, according to the theory on which we’re operating, the density of a preclear. Now when we say density, we mean electronic density. You’ll know much more about that. They’re just vaguely getting into it in the field of nuclear physics. The density of energy.

Well, we are to some slight degree fortunate when we’re taking this serious here. It’s fortunate for me, at least. It’s fortunate for a student from the standpoint of study. We… we have, imagine this, just imagine this, we have a textbook printed in advance of a lecture. And there is a complete text on the material which I’m going to give you in the next three weeks. And it’s called SCIENTOLOGY 8-8008. And it was a book which I wrote in England and which is being put through the mill there, and in view of the fact that the book was typed by a former BBC program typist, one of these people that takes it straight off the platter you know or straight over the air from some foreign station and puts it down, and as a result it was taken off the records and put onto stencils, and put into a mimeograph machine. And that right now is being completed over there and is being air expressed here for you and your use.

An individual has in suspension a certain amount of energy and when you feed through that energy, which is in suspension, it’s dense energy. It’s not energy flowing, it’s ridges. And when you feed through him a tiny trickle of current, the way the ridge is modulated by the auditor reflects on the machine the amount of effort, emotion, counter-effort, and counter-emotion in the ridge or the dense area of energy is restimulated by what the preclear is answering up to.

Now… uh… the subject and coverage in it is probably completely incomprehensible without the lectures, cause all it is is simply a machine gun bap bap bap on precise definitions. Just definitions, uh… phenomena and how you do it, comprises maybe two pages in this book. And well all the data is there and all the definitions are there. And so I’m going to orient these lectures against that book and as you take notes here, you will find that your notes will correspond with this book.

Why when it’s restimulated by the auditor’s questions, and by the preclear s actions, you get a variation of that needle. That’s because it varies the current trickling through the preclear by the varying ridge. Why, this is really very simple. If you had a block of ice and you put an electrode on one side of the block of ice and an electrode on the other side of the block of ice you would get, if you fed from one electrode to the other, you d get tiny little trickle through that block of ice. It’s not a good conductor, but you could soup it up until you’ve got a trickle of one sort or another.

Now this is the only existing copy which is here. And it starts out with the beingness of man and Scientology as a science of knowing how to know. It starts out with survival and the dynamics and gives in its first chapter a very brief rundown of the material which has already appeared in DIANETICS: MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, SELF ANALYSIS, HANDBOOK FOR PRECLEARS, ADVANCED PROCEDURES AND AXIOMS,.

Now, if you were to make the block of ice bigger suddenly or smaller suddenly, you of course would get a difference in that trickle of electricity. Now what you re doing with the question – ridges go this way: they’re all in there on an associative basis or an identification basis, that is to say, you say the word „beans“ to a preclear, he gets a certain off the ridges. A thetan doesn’t think this way. But a ridge thinks this way, if a ridge thinks at all.

SCIENTOLOGY 8-80 is a very good reference book. But it was one of those things which… which happened and then was all very quick and before the book got anyplace, why results were being produced otherwise. It is an account of phenomena which we have to have here, but we are no longer using the techniques of 8-80. They’re old. It’s been several weeks. It’s been several weeks.

You say beans to him and he runs off this terrific connotation on beans this way and he had to eat beans when he was in the navy and beans and so forth. And he had a cap once upon a time called a beanie and on and on and on – James Joyce style. And you get this associative thought. Well, now that is a highly aberrated form of thought, in one form however, it is logic. In another form, it is insanity. For instance you say the word, „road“ to this preclear… he wouldn’t know whether you were saying, „road“ or, „rowed“ until you’d asked the question a little more clearly. But if you say, he rode a horse – you could say he „rowed“ a horse to an insane preclear and that would be perfectly logical to the insane preclear. He „rowed“ a horse. And words and actions and symbols are very interesting in the way they associate in these ridges. Actually, one wavelength associates with a wavelength and you get an enormously messed up patch of association, all about this and all about that, and all those things are contained in this one dense piece of energy. Now it depends on how dense the preclear is, how he records on this machine. And I mean that in its most literal sense; it’s how dense he is.

Now, related to that I want to say one point about that. The study of Dianetics is a study of Homo sapiens in his behavior manifestation. Now the moment you take Homo sapiens apart you’ll find out that he is a four-way composite. He comes into four chunks; he falls rapidly into four pieces. And the second he fell into four pieces in my hands it was utterly necessary to go off and find out which one of those pieces we continued with. So just to be novel and unique about it, we took the preclear. Now other people… other people might have had other opinions about this, but we thought taking the preclear was a good bet.

Oddly enough, there is a level of density which produces rather heavy logic. The German level of density is something we should study on that. Produces very interesting logic; also that level produces a language which lets you in on about 185 words and then tells you what the verb was, or lets you in on a whole bunch of words and then tells you what the subject of what we were talking about was. Japanese does practically the same thing; that’s why people think it’s… it’s actually a language like baby talk. But they get a delayed fuse on everything. The… the stuff doesn’t go off until you get clear back to the end of it. There’s no flow on it.

Well the second you take the preclear you find yourself addressing something which seems to be, and seems to itself and himself or herself to be, an energy production unit which exists almost as a non-dimensional point existing in space. And this energy production unit is quite separable from the body. This is the easiest part that we have to do, is how to take these pieces apart. Hardly anything to it.

Well, that s pretty heavily identified logic. Now you get the lighter, more airy form of logic. Not very airy, but it’s quite a lot lighter in the field of mathematics. Well, mathematics is working more or less on this same associative principle. In the abstract sense, the mathematician says, „A=A.“ He says, „equals.“ And there s no such thing in the MEST universe as far as I m concerned in any universe, as a complete whole entire „equals.“ It’s an absolute and it’s an unobtainable thing.

Now to make something out of the pc from there on is a little bit harder and we’ll have to study hard on that particular subject. Now actually we could release Standard Operating Procedure for theta clearing and put it into people’s hands. Of course, a lot of them get into a lot of trouble. And a lot of things would happen and people would get… Four professional auditors one night called me up and said, „We got a preclear stuck in the ceiling we can’t get her off.“

But you can say in a formula, „1=1.“ The mathematician is satisfied with „1=1.“ He is perfectly satisfied with that. And yet look, „one what?“ As long as you’re with the abstract thought and you re not dealing with the real universe, you don’t have to ask, „One what?“ But if you say, „One apple equals one apple.“ well, that’s useful, useable, use it down at the grocery store, use all these places. But it doesn’t happen to be true. There isn’t an apple in the whole universe equal to another apple in the whole universe. The number of cells in an apple vary alarmingly. The thickness and size of the skin varies alarmingly. The size of the apple itself varies and even if you didn’t take all of these things into effect, what do you have? You have two apples occupying different spaces. Now, you… it’s perfectly all right for you to say, you say, „One apple equals itself.“ as long as you don t ask „When?“

So I said, „Well put the body on the telephone“ and you could hear things creaking around. And they held the telephone to the body’s ear and I tried to get in communication, I couldn’t do it. The body was not responding. And… uh… so I had to go over and sit down and go on over there and take a look and finally with practically wave processing had this person running the „glee of irresponsibility.“ And running it as a dichotomy against the „glories of responsibility“ back and forth and all of a sudden, why, she was able to pry herself off the ceiling and get back into her body again. This was a great relief to people. It’s always a great relief to people for some reason or another when they see the body become animate once more.

So you have mathematics as a very nice way of writing in abstracts and writing in symbols, and the only error mathematics ever makes is supposing that those symbols are actual. The supposition – it doesn’t make that mistake very often; mathematicians are pretty good at this by the way. They figure out all sorts of things and then they say, „I guess that’s the answer.“

It has something to do with police; there’s such an objection on the part of the police to have bodies around that don’t breath and so on. I don’t know, it’s some fixation or psychosis with them, they want the heart running and so on. It’s a very funny thing. The police come in they find a body without its heart running something like that, they get real upset about it. And take people off and book them and put’em in electric chairs and they’re quite extreme about this. And it will begin to look to you after a while, as you continue on with this study… this begins to look to you just as sensible as getting somebody electrocuted because his radio isn’t turned on. Somebody comes in, finds the radio, then that’s very bad.

Now your preclear if he s real good shape – way up the tone scale, you ask him to associate something with something else, he can do it just for kicks. He doesn’t associate those two things. They might appear to somebody else to be quite close together, but he doesn’t associate those two things. But you could, he’d say, „Oh yes, there’s a relationship in there, so what?“ Now you give him a symbol and he wants to know what this symbol applies to. Well, you tell it applies to so and so and so. That’s very happy. He can apply the symbol all over the place. He could get the German word for it, for an apple, and a French word for an apple, and the Japanese word for an apple. And say all these words are related because they’re… they all mean apple. But these are words. And words are statements, ah… the words are vibrations of ah… sound which is a method of ah… communication, a specialized method of communication and… and that applies and so forth, sure.

Well, anyway, the release of Standard Operating Procedure for theta clearing Issue One, we’re now working on Issue Three. That’s what we’re teaching here now. Be Issue Four next week but that’s all right.

Don t ask a psychotic do they think that way, though. Oh no, you say, „symbol.“ He’s got an, „object“ right now, he’s got an object. He can… he’s… he’s really got an object. You give him another symbol, he’s got another object. And you say, „All right, now let’s take the first symbol.“ He’s just as happy to pick up this second symbol, show it to you – it’s an object. You won t be struck with this until you process a psychotic, which I don’t advise you to do. So what, so a psychotic.

If you took Standard Operating Procedure, you could read it over, and you would go out and about fifty percent of the people you would process with it. Get that English drag over process. The British and I made a compromise. They stopped calling it theeta like theeta clears and so forth and they call it theta now. And I stopped saying praucessing and started calling it processing. So we made a bargain, a treaty on it.

But if you really want a little experience on as we go along a cycle of action, on the deterioration, which is graphed on a tone scale of beingness, of automaticity of this, of that, of other things, and so on. Just process a psycho or fool around with one for a short time and you’ll have the darndest experience, because the word is the object. Has no further connotation – it’s just the object. You give him the word, „cat“ and he’s got a „cat.“ And then you could apply this object over on the side of a horse and he’d be very happy.

Now the point is that standard Operating Procedure is fifty percent, the first fifteen minutes, you’ve got a theta exterior. In the first fifteen minutes of play, in fifty percent of your cases and probably it’s twenty-five or thirty hours for the toughest of the cases. That’s a long time. Well when I say a long time now, measured in terms of ten hours. That’s a long time. A very, very long time would be twenty-five hours of processing.

But… he’s being, „careful,“ he s being careful, because he knows that the last ditch of his beingness is making sure that that object „cat“ c-a-t, the object c-a-t, is always applied to the object, „cat“ with four legs. There’s two objects and we’ve gotta keep those together because if we DON’T keep those together… you come along and you’re singing a song or something of this sort – a person who’s only started in that direction. You’re singing this song or something of the sort and you come to a point the third line, you use the word „a“ instead of „the.“ And the original music it was written, it was the word „a.“ It was A nice summer morning. And you come along and you say, „The nice summer morning“ – huuurh – No, no, he’ll say… he’ll stop you right there. He’ll say, „It’s, It’s THE nice summer morning.“ You got that now?

All right, now what happens then, that if you could go out and you could make a theta clear in the first ten or fifteen minutes of play on about fifty percent of the people that you ran into. Just this run-of-the-mill, not people in Dianetics there, they’ve already ceased to be Homo sapiens and are a little bit tougher to handle. But just people off the street. Why, what would really be the sense in, in… What’s all this body of stuff that you have to know in connection with that? Well, there’s several points there.

Now you get a person well up the tone scale and you could say, „The beautiful dewy day,“ whether it rhymed or not and this person wouldn’t give a darn. He s perfectly capable of knowing the difference between the right way, if there is one, that the song should go, and the way it goes. But this fellow who’s right on the borderline… his universe, he’s gotta be so careful to agree with the universe. He’s gotta be so careful about all this, that he’s fitting everything together. He reminds you of somebody who’s walking over crates of eggs without daring to crack one. It’s fantastic!

One is that the other fifty percent of the cases are resolvable but they’re only resolvable with skill, considerable skill. You can resolve them with running ded dedexes and Technique 88. You actually could resolve them if you just sat down and plugged for about 200 hours with irresponsibility and responsibility and irresponsibility and responsibility, Just assessed it and found out what they would want to be responsible for and what they wouldn’t want to be responsible for and just get them to run this by flows and run it and the next thing you know, maybe in fifty hours, a hundred hours, two hundred hours, your preclear’s standing out in the middle of the room looking at the body saying, „I didn’t know you could get outta that thing. What was I doing in it?“ That would be by Technique 88. Well, that’s an awful long time for an auditor to invest. There are much faster methods.

Ah… one of those fellows will, sometime you’re processing one of them, they appear to be very wild and very irrational, until you start to process them and you have to pin them down on this, and you find out that wild irrationality is very carefully done according to pattern.

Now using ded dedex running on flows you could probably do it in something like fifty hours. But… uh… that’s too long and there’s, of course, more reasons why you have to know this additional data.

And the fellow s sitting there and you’ll say, „Well we re going to process you for a few minutes, now.“

Ded dedex running is nowhere near as effective as creative processing. Nowhere near as effective. That brings it down to maybe… I don’t know… depends how skillful the auditor is with it, because that is something which is a set formula on which you can play anything, but sometimes one auditor plays a little bit better tune than another auditor on this and he gets a little bit faster results. There’s not terrible variation in the thing.

And he’ll say, „Well, ah… just a minute, uh… you’ll have to turn on the radio.“

But, uh… well, if you could use creative processing with regard to theta clearing, what we call a Case Five, why… uh… that would be just wonderful. And twenty-five hours for a tough case, that would be very nice.

„Why do you have to turn on the radio?“

Well, what do you know? There’s a faster process called spacation. Isn’t that a wonderful word. I made that up all by myself. You won’t find it in any dictionaries. It means a process having to do with the rehabilitation of the creation of space, process having to do with the rehabilitation of creation of space. That’s spacation. It also would have a second meaning. And… uh… that meaning would be, you see we, in English we don’t have a word which means creation of space. People overlook this word or didn’t have the information or didn’t get the word or were just stupid about all this or something. But you keep making this space called MEST universe all the time. If you weren’t here there wouldn’t be any space. But you keep making it. And you’re stuck with it at the moment.

„Well, I have to get the time signal.“

Spacation, as a process, would be one thing. Now it would have another meaning. It would have another meaning. It would mean the subject of space, the subject of space. And we call the process spacation and spacation would be the subject of space. This is above the subject of energy.

„Well, what’s the time signal got to do with it?“

Now… uh… in order to use these techniques, in order to get very rapid results, there’s a considerable body of information connected with the thetan, all the rest of the various parts of a human being. But, don’t think that’s the only reason you have to have this information. It’s actually a dirty trick to make a theta clear out of somebody without passing him the data that should go with it. He does not, he doesn’t automatically know.

„Well, you say a few minutes, we’ve got to measure it with a time signal, get the Arlington time signal going, and we’ll get that time signal on and then it’ll be all right and I’ll be able to measure it with a time signal. And then I’ll be able to sit here.“

His knowingness is high, but that’s potential knowingness. That’s only potential. And there’s actual data that goes along with the subject of being a theta clear. He doesn’t know this instinctively. If he knew this instinctively, he would not be here in the MEST universe. Make up your mind to that, if he knew all this data.

And… ah… well, „Why… why… why if I process you that…?“

So, so, you particularly as an auditor have to know the most astonishing subject. I… I don’t think this subject has ever been taught here on Earth before. Ah, there’ve been some wild subjects taught here. There’s been „Nazi intelligence services, the conduct thereof,“ wildest subject I know practically to date. All sorts of subjects, they’ve taught things called elementary physics, real wild subjects. They teach in universities now they teach „atomic and molecular phenomena“ under the name of „nuclear physics“ and teach it as though they knew. There’s wild things going on, but no subject as wild as this.

„Well, you see if… if you process me and I… I wasn’t keeping the time myself – it would get away. And… ah… so I keep this time very carefully and the time signal, I have to keep it for us.“ Theurrg!

Fortunately, very few subjects are as elementary or as basically simple in their parts as this. So on the one hand when you say what this subject is, you can expect people’s hair to stand on end. And then if you went ahead and explained its various component parts and it might only take you three weeks, they would suddenly realize that the subject was knowable. And that’s one of the first things you’ve got to know when I announce this subject to you. The subject is knowable, quite knowable. And you can satisfy yourself that it’s knowable in a very short space of time. You can satisfy yourself the first day you use creative processing, you will suddenly realize that you are handling a knowable subject, then you realize that you’re studying then this subject, don’t be too shocked. Because you are studying the anatomy of universes. The construction, maintenance, destruction of universes of various kinds and dimensions with concomitant component parts. I just threw the last in to make it sound good.

This fellow s having a terrible time, see. He s gone to a point of agreement, but he’s found out it doesn’t matter how much he agrees. It just doesn’t matter. But he’s down there. And he’s still trying to agree. He knows most horrible punishment awaits him if he doesn’t agree. And sure enough, speaking a little more on this agreement, it doesn’t do anything BUT in this universe.

You’re studying the basic structure. This is the most elementary level of its study. We’re studying the basic structure and experience. Get that, structure and experience, called the MEST universe. That’s the most elementary of these studies.

Little boy runs down the street. If he forgets the fact that you pick up your feet in order to run, he’ll go flat on his face and the MEST universe will hit him in the face, and it will hurt his nose, and it will hurt his knees and it will bung up this nice little aesthetic thing called a body and… he didn’t agree with it. In the MEST universe, you have to pick up the feet of a body to run.

Now the reason we have to study this, and the only reason we have to study this is because it sums up into what they laughingly call natural laws. And these natural laws are the outgrowth of the composite agreement of all the beings in this universe. These laws, you might say, are the inevitable average of agreement if you start out with something like the first entrance into the MEST universe. The first postulates of the MEST universe. If you start out from there, you wind up seventy-six trillion MEST universe years later with things squirreled up the way they are.

Now you go out here, and you don’t agree with the MEST universe, you start down the street and you say, „Well, it doesn’t matter to me. I m going to put the left hand sides of all the streets on the right hand sides of all the streets. And I’m going to go down the left hand side of the street, saying: It’s the right hand side of the street and these other guys can go to hell.“ There s a dull crash! And you re in the repair shop.

Now when you get this basic agreement, when you get all these agreements summed up, you’ll find out that they are statable, very accurately statable. Another thing, they’re experienceable, which is more important. And they’re experienceable by a preclear ten minutes after you start processing him. That’s more important to you as an auditor. Now, he won’t even vaguely know what’s happening. You’ll know what’s happening. You’ve gotta know what’s happening, because all sorts of things might start to occur on which you would have no check or track if you didn’t know what you were doing.

It’s a very uncompromising universe. It doesn’t know anything about there might be another way. It… it… it just doesn’t know that. An engineer… it takes an engineer to take this universe apart, really, for this reason: he has a disciplined thought. The MEST universe has taught him better.

You are undoing his agreement that makes him a part of the natural law which became the MEST universe. And when I say natural law I’m not hedging, I’m talking about E=mc2, talking about those funny gravity formulas that were put out a few hundred years ago, you’re talking about, oh, fulcrums, balances. You’re talking about the most real of real experience in this universe. And those sum up out of agreement and when we start studying this subject, we start studying natural law. And then we wind up by studying not natural law but the agreement which made natural law. And then it’s inevitable that we would start studying that thing which is capable of making an agreement which then becomes natural law, which then could build a whole universe.

He’s got a mountain out there and he’s gonna put a railroad through, well, he puts that railroad through that mountain with a tunnel. He doesn’t just run the tracks to this side of the mountain and then resume the tracks on the other side of the mountain, and then give the Twentieth Century Limited a highball to go down that track. He’s learned better. He’s learned that if you’re agreeing, if you’re going to do anything physically with the MEST universe, you’ve got to work with its laws.

Probably thirty trillion years ago or something like, E=mc2, whatever that formula is, that probably wasn’t true. Probably nobody’d agreed to that yet, or something of the sort.

Now the only distance we have gone there is the distance that the laws of the MEST universe are based on a basic series of agreements, which gradually became more and more and more agreement; and they became very solid.

I’m… I’m sure there’s an old civilization called Arslycus that you’ll find on an E-Meter with a pc. By the way if you want to make your pc terribly tired and worn out, if you want to put him under good control and start him down the automaticity curve, that’s another one. If you want to put him down the automaticity curve rapidly, just suggest to him something about Arslycus and get him just to run a little corner of Arslycus and then sympathize with him and leave him there. He’s spent something like ten thousand lives in Arslycus, on the average, and all he did was work. And he did the same job over and over. And when he died they could reach out and bring him back and put him in another body and he was a trained artisan, and they didn’t even educate him again. They grew the body very rapidly and they put him back on the same job. And the job would have to do with polishing the third row of bricks. And that would be all there was to the job – polishing the third row of bricks.

Now, when I talk about this E-Meter here then, you are measuring, really, a gradient scale that goes from identification – he rode a horse, he rowed a horse, same thing – up through… ah… riding horses, something or other, is a good exercise and… ah… I guess that s why he rode a horse every morning, fairly logical. To well, „Horses get ridden, so what?“ up to, „Riding horses – can you ride horses? All right, let s create a horse and see.“

Arslycus got worse and worse. It got bigger and bigger. It was not built on a planet, it was just built in space. And it got bigger, and bigger, and bigger and bigger and one of these days I’m sure one of these slaves suddenly got the big idea of mass. And it sounded so reasonable, it sounded so logical to everybody that you had to start going slow with Arslycus because you would overdo the mass formula. That everybody agreed to this, the mass formula became a fact and Arslycus broke to pieces and scattered around in that particular part of the sky as being of too great a mass to sustain itself. Before that was just building built on thin air and roadways going between buildings. And it blew to pieces and all broke up and everybody fell through the sky. And were very happy to see it gone, but I think that that is about the point where you got the law of gravity coming in strongly. And after that the law of gravity began to affect itself on the universe more and more and more and more and you started to get all kinds of suns and planets and the most fantastic array of things.

Now, it a measuring a level of reason. Now as you go up that level of reason, you’ll find out that Homo sapiens considers things reasonable, most reasonable, at about 3.0, a conservative statement. He doesn’t like very positive statements. This universe has taught him to be careful, taught him that when you say to the body „run“ and then don t pick the body’s feet up, that it falls flat on its face and gets all scarred up. And so he accepts this rather.

Now… uh… all this of course is is… I’m just I’m just kidding you mostly. I don’t believe that you’ve been in the universe seventy-six trillion years. I don’t believe you have any past before birth. I… I don’t believe that there’s any reason whatsoever for this universe to be here except that some fellow called the devil or something that built it. Uh… I don’t believe any of these things. And I don’t want to be agreed with about them. It infuriates me to be agreed with about them. So I’m not asking for anybody to agree with me but I’m not asking for anybody to disagree with me either. All I’m asking is that we take a look at this information. And then go through a series of class assigned exercises – each one of you will get a mimeographed piece of paper. And that has a series of exercises on it. And it just says test this and test that. And it gives you a rundown actually on the complete subject. It is asking you to look for phenomena. And you’ll complete that before we’re finished here. Complete that in the evening or when you’re off for the weekend.

But you talk to a thetan about this and the thetan has a much wider band. Why? Well, in the first place, he can make himself invisible or make himself visible. Therefore, he can t be easily spotted by the MEST universe. Furthermore, he’s not dependent upon MEST universe distances. He doesn’t get upset by these distances. These distances are nothing to him. So he’s already licked the MEST universe space. And you’ll find out he s very airy about the whole thing, quite airy. I mean his… his… what you could consider a fabric of logic to a thetan: Well, here’s three men on a subway train, and one of them – there’s a strange roaring and so on – and one of them says, one of them says, „I’m going to.“ Oh, let’s make it an underground. „Ah… I’m going to get of at Wembley.“ And the fellow next to him say, „No, it’s Thursday.“ and the third fellow says, „I’m Thursday too. Let s all get off and have a beer.“

It is a very interesting thing but all this phenomena is discoverable. So I’m not asking you to agree with me; I’m actually asking you to find out what you agreed with. And what you have been agreeing with all this time.

Well, now the reason why that sounds strange, to you, is because it’s not by gradient scale. I’ll use this example again. If the first fellow said something on the order of, ah… „I’m going up to Wembley.“ And the fellow said, „I m going there tomorrow, but… uh… that’s Thursday.“ And the third fellow says, „Ah… ah… Thursday’s as good a time to have a drink as any.“ It’s logical, so it’s not funny.

In order to bring you to such a point of agreement that you’re actually here and and think that you should only be here and in the MEST universe and so forth. And examine that track of agreement, so that then you can undo that track of agreement. In other words, let’s see if we can’t disagree with this universe just a little bit. Not necessarily to destroy the universe. The universe is a good thing. Uh… I know a lot of people that ought to inherit it.

But Homo sapiens depends upon that level of logic. He can’t skip skip skip and then pretend it’s logical. A thetan can do that. A thetan can just sit down and pretend it’s logical. And he said, „The submarines, ah… the submarines all have chrysanthemums because of the beer.“ And the other fellow’s supposed to figure that out. And… uh… well, he’s just stupid. He just doesn’t get the point, that the ruddyrods are on the left underside of no spokes.

Now, where you got a technique, where this technique tied in suddenly with Dianetics and so on, was that Dianetics had gone right ahead and studied natural law as natural law. But in 1950 I made a lecture in Elizabeth and this lecture in Elizabeth concerned itself with affinity, reality, and agreement. And it was stated in that lecture that reality was in essence agreement. And that the day when we discovered more about why reality was in essence an agreement, on that day we would make a very wide step forward.

So when you… when you get this… this non-sequitur level, Homo sapiens goes mad. Oh, actually, you can just… you can just punish. You can punish somebody at about 1.1 on the Tone Scale. Just brutalize them. Just by sitting there talking that way and pretending you’re making sense. You’ll practically cave their brains in before you get through. And if you just keep on in a reasonable tone of voice and explain to them, „Don’t you understand? The… the submarine’s chrysanthemums.“ You get the idea?

Now that fact has happened. We have found out about reality. And we found out about the agreement and why it’s an agreement and furthermore we can prove it. Not by any esoteric means but simply as easily as: „chairs fall when you let go of them and they are held in the air.“ They fall. Everybody can see that. Everybody agrees on it. And the chair is falling. The actual fact is, there isn’t any chair there. But we agree that there is a chair there and we’re all set about it.

And they’ll say, „Oh, you mean Japanese submarines.“ And you say, „No, no, no, no, no, no, just the… just the… just the submarine’s chrysanthemums, that’s all.“ Now, if you try to stretch in a couple of more details in there to bridge that gap. And all of a sudden, he’ll just explode in your face.

If I remember part of that lecture it said that we naturally select out of us, select out and push out of the group those who do not agree with our MEST perceptions. Some man would walk in here at this moment and say, „there is a large black cat standing on this rostrum“ and that’s all he would agree to. And then he would agree that he had pushed the large black cat out the window. And all there was on the rostrum was myself, and I kept standing here. And you perceive that. And he made a terrible ruckus about this large, black cat or the Prince of Darkness that he has just found in Upper Santa Monica. You would look at him and you would say he is mad. You’d think if he were violent about this and continued violent and would not listen to reason in other words wouldn’t agree and if he hung on to his large white rabbit or large black cat from there on, even you would consider that something ought to be done about him quite desperately. He is obviously insane. In other words, he does not share your reality. In other words, he doesn’t agree with you. But because he’s just one guy, and you’re thirty-five or thirty-seven you win, he loses.

Now, by straining a ridge with that non sequitur thing you can make a ridge blow up on a guy. You can give him a cold. You can upset him. You gotta be logical all the way through. We won’t worry too much about that ridge.

Now he can make a universe in which black cats can appear at will and at random. He can have a fine universe that possibly is peopled by nothing but black cats. But that’s his universe and he has made the horrible effort of trying to make black cats here. But he’s trying to make them in the MEST universe and this isn’t his space. And he’s not trying to make them out of his energy or anything of the sort. And he hasn’t had the good sense to go out and, knowing the anatomy of universes, go out and make a universe full of black cats for his own edification. And he… has come in here and tried to tell us that this is his universe.

This thing simply measures the relative density of the person’s ridges. The thicker those ridges are, the closer that person is to associating across the boards on any subject, and the less able he is to start and stop, increase or decrease a chain of logic. You get a person, for instance, who – you start him in on one thought, and they just go on, on that thought. Oh, just ad nauseum. They just keep going. And they just… by the yard.

You get that horrible mistake. He comes in and says, „This is my universe only and I am peopling it with black cats and you’ve gotta listen to me because you have now a universe full of black cats.“ And you look around and you don’t see any black cats. And you say that he’s nuts. And he goes to the local spin bin and that’s that.

You… you started out and you mentioned, unfortunately, the fact that you were once in Singapore, and you go on from there. „Singapore, let’s see, Singapore, that’s in the Malay Straits settlements, isn’t it? I knew a fellow once who was in Singapore, and he told me that there were two-thousand-six- hundred-and-twenty-one police in the City of Singapore alone. Now I understand that there are twenty-one races mingled in Singapore.“ Did you ever run across one of these Almanac people or encyclopedia people? Don’t push him a button, because they just start to run.

The race actually punishes non-agreement. Well, now the reason Scientology gets by with this very easily is because we’ve been studying agreement. We’ve been studying agreement harder than anybody else has ever studied agreement before. We know the anatomy of agreement. We know the laws on which agreement’s based and how it takes place and we could go ahead and set up, by a chain of agreements some of the doggonest things. And then take’em apart too. So, in Scientology, we’re really not trying to disagree with the MEST universe. That is just a handy way of saying it, because that implies a flow against the MEST universe. And we’re not interested in a flow against the MEST universe. What we’re doing is simply taking the MEST universe and we can make it appear or disappear at will for any individual. Now that’s pretty good. And I’m, you understand, I’m fully and thoroughly against destroying the MEST universe. Any two or three of you get together over some weekend and decide to blow all this up, you let me know. Because I buried a bone out on the other side of Arslycus and I want time to dig it up.

Well, that’s not… that’s far from insane. It’s just associating too neatly and too much and it’s just a little bit out of control on the subject of control thought. So this fellow just goes along this line too, and it goes on up in Homo sapiens to the person that you say something to them and this reminds them of something else, which reminds them of something else, which reminds them of something else, which reminds them of something else, over here. And these things are not very related, but all of this is completely… completely psycho-seriousness.

Every once in a while, a pc’s looking at this; he’s just getting processing. Nobody’s explaining this to him. he’s just getting processing. He gets an awfully funny feeling that there’s some thought he doesn’t quite dare think. And he comes in close to it and he feels the plaster creak. And then he pats it back very hurriedly and runs away from there. Well, what he’s fooling with there is the small atom bomb of agreement.

They’re reminded of all of these things, they’re not really differentiating. They’re running a dispersal.

He’s having a tough time with this little point. He doesn’t want the responsibility of undoing it, because he can’t handle that much energy.

This person will register, the freak, on this machine. This person registers off the scale at the top. This person is dispersing. They’re sitting in the middle of an explosion. That s the actual fact of the matter. There isn’t any ridge closer to them than about two thousand miles. There is an explosion of great violence and they’re sitting right in the middle of this explosion and they’re holding on to the explosion at the moment it exploded just that way and their ridges are blown way out there again. And they get nothing association with nothing but it’s not funny to them. Life is very serious to these people. They are very easily upset.

You get him up to a point where he could handle this much energy, he would face that thought. And really, actually, probably all that would happen to him is the MEST universe would momentarily disappear for him. And then he would have to fish around for a little while in order to get a point reference on the MEST universe again in order to get into it again. Because it’s awfully easy to get into and out of. It’s, it’s nothing.

The second that you start… you can recognize this person immediately: if a person is way up scale and does this you know you’ve got a dispersal case, and they sit between 1.1 and 1.3; pardon me, 1.0 and 1.3, on the Tone Scale. And you just ask them to contact the feeling of something expanding.

You know spacation – you know how to get into and out of the MEST universe. Now, uh… you just have to be able to handle space. If you can handle space why you can get in and out of the MEST universe like mad because this MEST universe is a very temporary affair. It’s very ramshackle. It’s built out of cards, it’s built out of old decayed energy that was dumped in here. And it exists in these large masses. And then people come in and they say, „Oh, goodie, goodie! Look at all that building material, and let’s build something out of it.“ Then instead of doing the rather easy thing, they want some alternating current. So they just look at a something or other, and they say, „All right some alternating current is going through that thing now.“ Alternating current goes through it and they say, „Want to know if the alternating current’s going through it all right.“ There he is with a meter, „Which will be there now or put that over here. Now, we have to have a line for the alternating current to go through, so we make sure it’s there. We’ll hook that up to the meter now. The meter will read, ah, the meter is reading. We have some alternating current. Now we will build… we will build a small street car and it will run up and down the street fitted to this alternating current machine. And that’s what powers it.“ You might as well say this street car will burn Coca-Colas, or something of that sort. The street car’s still going to run. But it’s all in how you set up your universe.

And if they get up, throw the cans of the machine down, look at you furiously, stamp, leave the house, run away, do something like that, or if you have just difficulty in keeping them in the chair after you’ve asked them that question, they’re there on the Tone Scale. They’re a dispersal case.

Now, when you’ve had as many people, and don’t ever get the feeling that people aren’t individuals, they are, that’s the most they become. That’s the horrible part of it, all this processing, is… people stop being identities and start being individuals. Big difference there. They… they stop being a name, and they’re very comfortable under this name, but right under the name, they’re saying all the time, „Who the hell am I?“ They don’t have any real feeling of beingness there except this name.

They read high because the second you ask them to alter the condition of the dispersal they start blowing out; they start blowing. You unbalance this dispersal they’re sitting in to a point where they get into the flow, stream themselves and they have the sensation of the body simply being blown off someplace. And so they jump up, they get nervous, they want to walk away or their thoughts get very very flighty.

They gotta have this body like you gotta have a card to get into a war plant. They walk around with this body and they shove it up to the grocer. And they shove it up to the bank teller, and they draw their money and get their rations, and so forth. Uh… it’s a handy identification card. It’s a little bit destructable for identification, a little bit heavy for an identification card. You can make an identification card with a couple of ounces, or an ounce, or a fifth of an ounce. You don’t have to have one that weighs 150 lbs. But, uh… well, people go to extremes in this universe that’s all, particularly in America they go to extremes on all these things. They… want big, powerful, strong identification cards. But you can’t quite get through your mind what you want these identification cards to do. But the identification card does furnish randomity. It permits a fellow to make a living so he can feed the identification card. And it permits the identification card to get tired, and to get happy, and to get sad, and have an emotional life, which a fellow can stand alongside of and pretend that he is not putting the emotion there to feel back. He can make a big pretense out of this, see. I am very sad today. He feels sad. He’s very sad. He feels sad. He reaches over and he says, „Now let’s see well, you see I’m very sad today. I think I will be very sad today, been lot of events happened and that should add up to sadness. So all right, now I got that back flow coming in. That’s real good now. Now I’m feeling how sad I feel.“ Another day… another day he says to himself, „I think today I’ll feel cheerful, feel cheerful.“ He somehow or another can’t find the plug or something to plug in cheerfulness into himself so that he will get back an emotion of cheerfulness. That’s a wonderful short circuit, by the way.

Now that is a very, very peculiarly, I mean it’s… it’s just one point on the Tone Scale, and it’s a peculiar case – it’s an oddity. But that is disassociation in the field of psychiatry. I don t know why psychiatry would lay much stress on this word disassociation because it is a peculiar special case.

A fellow gets himself localized. He gets less and less able to do this wider band of emotion and so he fixes on one emotion that’s quite easy. And after that, he’s an old grouch or something. But that’s the one he can feed in and get back. And he goes around pretending all the time that these sensations exist exterior to himself. He doesn’t believe that he has to feed a feeling there to feel a feeling. That’s one thing that’s dismaying to a preclear. Just makes him want to quit right now if he’s down the tone scale.

Your people who are really daffy don’t disassociate. It’s… the persons in pretty good shape who can disassociate. They can at least disperse around. The fellow you want to be careful of is this fellow who sits there and just goes on ad nauseum without any real connection. Who thinks he is being completely logical. Who would say, „The submarines? Well, that’s a matter of chrysanthemums, isn’t it?“ There’s no… no humor in this. He s doing this carefully. Being very careful, he gets all of those things just exactly sorted out. You know on the big ENIAC and other things, they have what they call a bullpen. Material comes in on this bullpen, shoots in there and halts for more material to be fed to it. And when new material is fed to this material, which is only part of a solution, why then that material can clear and go through, into the conclusion of the banks.

„What! You mean all these beautiful girls around and all this aesthetic feeling and… and so on and I actually… all this time I’ve been putting the sensation in that direction so I could feel the sensation back again. And all I got to do is turn around here with this mock up and put the sensation in this mock up. And feel the sensation back out of the mock up and then make the mock up three dimensional and it’ll dance. You make forty mockups and they dance back and forth. Put blue veils on them and put them in a sky with clouds and you have a Mohammed in heaven. You mean I can do all this?

So there’s this route there with this big bullpen. Now there are people – almost anyone of us have done this – they get the datum in the bullpen over here and it won’t clear. It won’t clear. It’s just stuck, right there. It’s not going to go anyplace. Somebody has told ‘em a joke and they have not been able to see that this thing was a joke, and they haven’t gotten the point of this joke. And they keep worrying about the point of the joke and actually two or three years from then, they will be thinking of something else and this joke will boomp them.

Well, he cannot only do all that, but he can fix them up three dimensionally and he can give them actual separate beingnesses and personalities if he wants to. And he can go on from there and get wilder and wilder. He can even get up to the point of making… making a university graduate or something if he wants to, wants to get this wild.

Now that is… that is… a bullpen datum. It just won’t add up any place according to their frame of logic. Now a person has to be willing to disassociate grandly, in order to clean up his bullpen just at will. Just look through there and say well, gee, what a lot of disrelated garbage and give it a yo-heave. If a person s quite bad off, he just never cleans his bullpen. And if you start to audit him, you’ll find he all of sudden will start a line charge; he’ll laugh for 48 hours. What’s he doing? The only thing he’s doing is just cleaning data out of this bullpen. You brought him up the line, to a point where he can start cleaning stuff out of the bullpen, it’s going out of there so fast, he can’t even examine it. And he’s just in a whirr of data. He’s cleaning up whole ridges full of disrelated material. The bullpen is an actual geographical thing. It’s the unrelated datum on the ridge. This thing will pick up bullpen data quicker than anything else.

And all he’s got to do if wants to go way above this, is just take one of these illusions and show it to people in this MEST universe. They will agree with that, because they can perceive it, if it’s on the right wavelength.

You find then, anything which isn’t connected and isn’t clean, a… there’s no conclusion on it, and there’s no evaluation on a datum, that datum will just sit up there like a signal flag. Why? Because it doesn’t fit on the rest of the ridge, it can’t go into flow with anything. It can’t flow anyplace. Anytime it tries to flow anyplace, there’s nothing will connect to it. And so it just bounces around, this way and that way, and you get this reaction on the machine. You’ll see that that confounded thing is very plain on the machine.

Now, that is what they talked about the old-time magician. He’s trying to do this all the time. Poor old Houdini goes on a stage. He uses curtains and boxes and everything you can think of to produce little things like elephants and so on out there for an audience to look at. And the audience says, „Isn’t wonderful the illusions which he is making there.“ Now that’s great. That’s Houdini. He did a good job, but the guy never learned to handle space.

Now the greatest exaggeration of that is known as the Theta Bop. The Theta Bop is a peculiar thing. The thetan is still sticking with a MEST object. Now get the magnitude of this bullpen datum – it’s just a bullpen datum. It’s just an unsolved problem. And the unsolved problem was the body itself. And in many cases, you will find not only does the thetan just think he s there, but the thetan is actually there geographically. And that Theta Bop; there s only one thing in Homo sapiens that I know of, that uniformly produces the Theta Bop. There possibly are other things that produce it. There’s a much wider one which shows up on home universe. Because that was a whole universe the fellow didn’t want to give away with. But it’s still a bullpen datum. He’s never solved why it went by the boards. What happened to his universe?

He actually did this by curtains, and occlusions of perception. Which is fascinating, because that’s almost impossible to do. That’s hard to do because do you know that there wasn’t a man in any audience who couldn’t have adjusted his MEST vision so as to see through any curtain there and see the elephant. The man in the audience is holding onto the fact, „A curtain is solid. A curtain is solid. Not supposed to look behind the curtain. All right, I won’t look behind the curtain and therefore I won’t see the elephant therefore look what Houdini’s done.“ It’s much easier than that. All Houdini had to do was to put the elephant in another piece of space and give him a slight push. Furthermore, the elephant would have disappeared. And looky there, he had to buy hay all the time and feed these elephants. He had to do all sorts of… of things. And he had to work hard and spot his time. And he couldn’t give a performance when he wanted to, he had to give a performance when he needed money to buy hay to feed the elephants. That’s slavery,

You can take a girl preclear particularly and just ask her for the time the stars fell down. And you re liable to get yourself ah… ah… a two kleenex boxes grief charge. That’s because you’re talking about the destruction of her home universe before she entered the MEST universe.

This is quite wild. I wish I could make it a little more wild. Actually, that’s about as wild as it gets. You could probably move aside Podunk, Iowa and… and put a new Podunk, Iowa in there if you wanted to. Motorist coming down the street would see a new Podunk, Iowa. The only trouble is when this motorist looked at the new Podunk, Iowa, he would have to be able to look at a Podunk, Iowa with which he could agree was a Podunk, Iowa. Now, if he did that Podunk, Iowa would then be sitting there. He could go into the drugstore. He could go into the Brown Derby in Podunk, Iowa. He could go to MGM Studios in Podunk, Iowa. And he could go to the General Electric Laboratories and main operating plant in Podunk, Iowa and everything would be there. It’d be in beautiful shape. He’d be able to pick up things and lay them down, and so on. He d be completely satisfied and convinced that it was there, if he agreed to it. Well now the MEST universe has some interesting tricks of making you agree: busting your shin bones, burning your fingers. The overall agreement has a lot of trickery in it.

But now what’s this Theta Bop thing? It’s just a little bop… it just goes tick tick tick tick tick. I don t know you could probably make it on this machine with great ease. Uh the… I keep forgetting this machine is… is exactly in reverse that scale to your E-meters. So I’ll have to stand on the other side of the wall and look at it if you don t mind.

If you don’t agree with the MEST universe, right off the bat, and remain in a state of complete unknowingness about it it says… That’s the horrible thing. The one thing you must not do in this universe is find out something. And you know every secret cult, every cult there’s ever been, every block of knowledge ever put forward in this universe has tried to have a big secrecy level on it.

Now your Theta Bop looks something like this. Not quite as jerky as that. You see this machine doing something on the order of this… why you got yourself the body he’s stuck in and it’s not the body he’s in. Because that’s the biggest bullpen datum a preclear can have. His… it went wrong and the body shouldn’t have been killed. And it shouldn’t have been killed, and it didn’t get buried properly, and it left all these responsibilities hanging fire. And it was all out of time, and it shouldn’t have occurred. And… ah… hum hum, that s a big datum. And my gosh, he’ll have all of those body’s ridges around with this body s ridges clipping in and out whenever you start to ask him about it.

The information dives out of sight in this universe faster than anything you’ve ever saw. Several thousand years ago somebody made a philosophical machine called the Tarot. Lord knows what that machine is up to or all about. And then he says, „The only way I can possibly make this last is to hand it over as playing cards to the Gypsies.“ And so today down through these thousands of years, we can again and still look at the Tarot. It’s still in existence but it’s just a philosophical machine. Every one of the cards in the Tarot is a concept of human experience one way or the other. And what he did with these and what he knew with these I don’t know. But it’s a very interesting gimmick.

It’s the big datum and the datum adds up to: it is such a serious problem. Is… is this 1952 or 1812? Is it – what… what s the date? And if you give him a flash like that quickly. You say, „What’s the date?“ Now he’ll say, „It’s 18… it’s 1952.“ And if he’s a very clever sly individual, you say, „What’s the date?“ „1952“ You say, „What did you think of first?“ „Oh, I don’t know, it just went by as a blur.“ Ah, you saw that… that Theta Bop, that little shake back and forth there.

One of the things that survives from the Tarot is The Fool. The Fool, of course, is the wisest of all. The Fool who goes down the road with the alligators barking at his heels, and the dogs yapping at him, blindfolded on his way, he knows all there is to know and does nothing about it.

Ah… that is, the most interesting manifestation on the machine to an auditor who simply sits the preclear down in the chair and put the hands… in the cans, and asks him something about, „Are you here?“ Or ah… „What are you thinking about?“ Or… er… any other… er… „Did you ever live before?“ Or something like that. He’ll just get a sweep of some sort if the person is not stuck on that Theta Bop. He’ll just get a sweep – a gradual rise, a gradual fall, something very normal on answers to his questions and may be sags when he hits something hot. But if he just asks those questions in the first two or three minutes of play – and you get a Theta Bop, this guy’s stuck. This guy’s not even… he doesn’t even realize he’s in the body he’s in at this moment. He is actually hanging around with a body sometime in the past. And it might be a doll, he might be stuck in a ship some place, he might be any place, but he’s back there.

And that is the Egyptian variation of the word fool. That’s an interesting character. He could actually be describing somebody at about 45 on the tone scale. All the alligators in the world could bark at somebody who was 45 on the tone scale. And all the village dogs could tear him to pieces any time they wanted to try. He could be completely blindfolded to anything that was going on. Cause nothing could touch him; just nothing could touch him. The village dog jumping on him, would jump through him and be a very amazed dog. Probably his hackles would stand up and he would be upset. Because he had passed out of agreement by knowing all agreement. Well, that’s in the Tarot. But look at how we have to define it.

Now what do you do? You just apply creative processing to this as a remedy. You don t particularly run it. Of course, once in a while… once in a while your own… your own desire for interest and randomity will get such, that you, you just can’t resist, you can’t resist doing something about this. You just, „Gee where is he stuck?“ Creative processing won t tell you that.

We have to take Scientology and apply it to the Tarot and then explain the Tarot. And say, then, they see what they knew in the Tarot. They didn’t know it in the Tarot. But that’s the joke.

So you… you start asking him, „Is he here? Is he there?“ and so on. Well, we had a chap in class who s a very interesting fellow. He was a nice guy. I don t think Dianetics had… an enormous reality to him. Ah… Dianetics had a pretty good reality and Scientology had practically no reality. We re talking about things like past bodies and that sort of thing. And ah… actually, that s not even important to what we re doing now, but… ah… it’s phenomena and it’s very interesting. This chap – things just a little bit unreal to him so one day the instructor got a hold of him, and the instructor put him on the machine and was going to give a demonstration of ARC processing.

But every piece of information we have had in the past has died out of sight. The one thing you mustn’t do in the MEST universe is know. You must agree, not know. And if you agree enough, it seems to say if you just agree enough, why you’ll just get along better, and better, and better, and sure enough you apparently do up to a certain point. And then it’s a case of agree or else. And then it’s the case of you will agree.

He starts this, „Now remember a time that is absolutely real to you.“ „Now remember a time when you were really in communication with somebody,“ so on… Machine start, Theta Bop, very nice little Theta Bop. He kept asking him ARC questions and the Theta Bop began to reduce. Course, he was just with ARC Straightwire pulling this fellow out of that other body.

We don’t care if you’re agreeing – we’re just going to go right on punishing you. Sure you’re willing to do all this, we don’t care if you’re willing or not. We’ll just go on punishing you.

And the Instructor couldn’t stand this. It was too much for him because it meant if that reduced all the way, then he’d have a hard time finding out where the fellow really was.

And the fellow gets into a frantic state. He doesn’t know what to agree to, he’s on his way down the cycle of agreement. And he’s finally down, way, way, way, way down on the tone scale on a sublevel agreement. And of course MEST is in the complete chaos of having agreed to everything. And it’s MEST. It’s no longer alive. It owns nothing. It controls nothing really. It takes a theta being to come along and do something to it and with it in order to reactivate it again.

So he gives him a couple of flash answers and a terrible thing has occurred there. It’s been the fellow’s first command. He’s a young captain and it’s the Battle of the Nile. And just at the moment when Nelson is winning his great victory, this fellow as a young frigate captain, one of the fleet captains, is on his own quarter-deck, mind you. He’s been successful in his action, when a bunch of French, as a last desperate effort, throw a boarding party aboard his ship and in the fracas he’s killed. And the trumpets are blowing throughout the fleet and the signals are going out throughout all the fleet calling recalls stating that a victory has been had and there he lies on a coil of hemp looking at the trucks of his own ship, dying. You see, just shouldn’t have died at that moment. He was killed after the victory took place, really. And this shouldn’t have happened, and so there he’s been ever since. There he WAS. I mean that Theta Bop bop bop bop bop. All of a sudden this incident had tremendous reality to this fellow, probably more reality than present time.

So what do we have here then. We have an agreement which starts to fade out. The interesting proof of this pudding is the fact that you can take your preclears at random who fall into the category of five and you can spot with them. You could just give them a test and find out which one of them was in the firmest agreement with the MEST universe. And having found this out what would you do? You d look at a tough case. That was a tough case. Now his deepening of agreement is just fastening him more and more solidly to MEST. And he’s getting more and more mesty and he’s less and less able to control MEST until one fine day… he’s either mad or very dead. And try to process this poor guy.

And just ran it off, knocked it out, brought him up to present time. This fellow will learn, and became possibly the best student we had in the class. His bullpen had that big datum in it so everything that went into the bullpen kept knocking into that datum that says, „I am dying at the Battle of the Nile.“ And naturally, the way a fellow who is dying at the Battle of the Nile would evaluate things is not a way a fellow in 1952 who’s in good health would evaluate things. And so this made a continual and consistent maybe.

Now you’ll pick up people who are below the level of agreement who are saying, „Well even though you do agree to it, it’s… it’ll just do something to you anyway. I… I means your luck’s never in. You always lose, I mean there’s no winning of any kind.“ That fellow’s even gone below that level.

Now you’ll find that Theta Bop then, is very important to you on theta clearing because you have to take him out of the other body first before you take him out of this body.

Now you can trace then. Here’s a person higher up the scale. He’s occasionally able to disagree with the MEST universe. Once in a while he can disagree with it like mad. He can take a car out here and – I don’t know, sort of pick it up on the curves at 90 degrees and turn it and it doesn’t turn over. It just keeps rolling in some direction or another. He’s just got a little tiny edge on things. He just doesn’t quite care what the MEST universe does to him.

I mean, you ask the fellow, you say to the fellow, „All right now, now step out of your body.“ Your machine goes creak, it drops, it falters. You can actually see the tug on the machine. Nope, didn’t work. You go on down the line. Before you’ve been at this very long, you’ll see that Theta Bop show up. He s trying to pull out of a body back in the stone ages or he’s trying to pull out of a body on Mars or he’s trying to pull out of a body on Arcturus or he’s trying to pull out of a body, of some doll, someplace. Or he s been a witch doctor or in a temple and he was terribly successful there and he prepared this big cup of poison in order to slip it to the Vestal Virgins or somebody who had riot taken his prophecy seriously so as to make it come true right out on schedule, and… uh… he drinks it by accident. Something like that.

Did you ever see anybody at the gambling table who cared desperately and who had to win – did you ever see him win? Not in this universe. Uh… but this fellow who’s sitting there and he doesn’t care if he got the money; he d take it out and throw it in a spittoon. And there that fellow sits with the dollars rolling in on him. And he’s getting a higher and higher stack of win. But then one day he gets married or something, threatened to lose his job and he says, „I’ve always won at gambling. Now I think I’ll go back and play. I’ll make some money.“ He’s done. He goes back and he loses and loses and loses and loses and loses. Well, he was able to take a very grand view of all this at first. Then later on when it became serious to him, you know, you know, the way to get ahead in the world is to work hard and save your money. And be respectful, respectful and polite, and willing, and very agreeable to your superiors. This is the old formula and yet, yet, it’s dismaying to go around and find the… quote Captains of Industry and find out that they’re a whole bunch of pirates and bums. They were never respectful to anybody. It’s just incredible – yet there they sit in command of large works and industries. And these fellows they didn’t save their money. They don’t save their money. They are not cautious with their investments. They buy the doggonest things. They get into the worst possible scrapes and trouble, and seem to keep right on going and getting right out of it again.

Or he’s… he s gone on this big expedition somewhere and the natives get a hold of him and they put him in front of the doors of the city gate and they take a big battering ram and they hold it back very carefully, see, and all of a sudden they let it go bong! And just before it hits him, he hears the cavalry coming to his rescue. Nothing can stop that battering ram – nothing. And he hears the, the clop, clop of cavalry hooves on the pavement, he knows, he knows, that help is right there. Only it’s just fifteen seconds too late. That’ll stick him with a bullpen datum.

And you sit around and say, „That fellow’s going to come to grief sooner or later.“ And after you’ve said that for about forty years – why, you get a little apathetic about it but you just know that right will triumph in the end. Of course the end of that track is MEST. Well, the fellow who hopes this, by the way, is already pretty well on that track and he’ll be MEST before the other fellow will. Because the other fellow can still bend the MEST universe around; he doesn’t have to agree with it too much.

And after that you put him on the machine. The machine goes toc, toc, toc, toc, toc, toc. Now a preclear can have several of these things, but ordinarily only has a couple, at the most, and usually just one. Now, ordinarily about 50 percent of your people just don’t have any.

How does a little kid get bent into an agreement with the MEST universe? Well it’s a remarkable thing, he runs down the street and he’s got a body. And the body has to run just so fast and his mother by the way is busy telling him, „You are a body, take care of your body,“ the teacher says so, the cops say so, traffic laws say so. Everybody says so. The doctor gives an inspection. You are your body. You are your body. You are your body.

So, you put a person on this machine, mostly to tell you what your course of action is going to be and to do an assessment to use in creative processing. I’ll go into that much better.

You oughta hear the wheezing sigh of electronic relief that goes out from a thetan you spring out of an eight year old kid. And that’s wonderful. You know you can just take ranks of kids and you can just go down and say, „all right, you’re two feet behind your head. Okay, you there? Oh, that’s fine. Next kid, two feet behind your head. What did you say? What did you say? Oh, you want to go to the British Museum? Go ahead.“

We have a way of doing an assessment now which is just uh… uh… just awful, it’s just terrible. You don t really have to know what’s wrong with the preclear. You don’t ask him what’s wrong with a preclear, you don’t diagnose him in any way. You just ask him a series of questions and wherever the machine drops, why that’s the question. And then you use creative processing on that zone of the eight dynamics.

One fellow… one fellow doing this, as… he was able to get the cooperation of a whole troop of scouts. Simply by telling them, „Now you want all the ice cream you can eat and you want to go to any of the cinemas you want to go to, okay now this is how you do it.“ And sure enough… it’s impossible to do anything with those children… it’s really terrible. I mean he should have thought of the future society before he did this because those children those children are doing terrible things. They don’t study. They don’t study. One of them picked up a bank of an education at Oxford and plugged it in.

It’s very mechanical, but because it’s very mechanical, the reason why you’re doing it might get lost. Now the reason why you’re doing it is to make a theta clear. And the second step of the reason why you’re doing it is to make a cleared theta clear. And that’s why you’re making an assessment.

Well, you know you’re not supposed to get things that easy in this universe. And another one, studying geometry. Very interesting but all he would keep doing was making the shapes. He’d just make the shapes and fit them together. And of course, he could answer his problems. And he could tell what the angles were on a truncated polygon when you did this or that with it. Very easy, he d really just make one you see. He didn’t keep figuring the way you were supposed to on it. And another one horribly enough of course looks through the top of the desk at the answers on the examination paper. Goes back to his seat and makes his body write them down and gets a hundred.

And you can cost yourself an awful lot of time. I made a terrible blunder a few months ago in London. A girl, a couple of months ago, a girl came in, somebody’s wife, and I processed her for four hours without cracking the case, four hours. She was a theta clear, but I was trying to boost her on up the line. Spent four hours, slug, slug, slug. It was late too. And do you know why I spent four hours – and why I didn’t bust it in fifteen minutes? For a good, real good reason, is I’d gotten cocky in my old age. I can look at people s ridges and see what’s on ‘em just like you’d be able to do and that’s fine. I see all that. And we know all about that. And we look in the pa… and that s all there is to that. And bong! And then nothing happens, you see. Do all that again and go through all that and then, bong, nothing happens. You say now, wait a minute – must be… must be, I’m down in horsepower or something of the sort. Here, you’re getting all ready to turn on some juice, and knock the ridges off of this pc just with pure electricity. Say to the dickens with it, the heck with auditing.

Why, that’s no good. I mean we can’t have the society running like that. Two of these kids, by the way, are very amusing. They’re brother and sister. And… oh they were in kinda bad shape. They’d lost their daddy one way or the other a few years ago. And gee, they brightened right up, one of ‘em lost her glasses, and the other one lost his shyness and became really well-mannered instead of just shyly well-mannered.

That s very bad for a pc by the way, but it’s a wonderful exercise for an auditor. Ah… generally puts the pc in apathy. He s never really evaluated the material or consented to let it go and all of a sudden – rip! It’s gone.

And… they spent hours and hours and hours now playing a game. One will mock up an illusion and put it on the mantelpiece. And the other one will look at it. And then he will mock up an illusion and put that on the mantelpiece. And she’ll take hers down. And then she’ll mock up an illusion. And see they’re looking at each other’s illusions that way. And that’s all they do. They just sit there. Their body’s parked over in the other side of the room you see. Now, it’s very amusing that phenomena of this character and so on could exist all these years and be individually known in so many places without really coming up and presenting itself, and saying here we are.

And I hadn’t done, in my feeling of great cockiness and ego, I hadn’t done an assessment on the girl. I hadn’t done an assessment, I hadn’t put her on the E-Meter and looked over her case, dynamic by dynamic, for creative processing. I hadn’t done that and so I wasted four hours of processing – just wasted it. And the time I found this, it was so late and she was very tired and she went home and practically spun the next morning because I just ticked this thing. And we passed her over, she got a little more processing, and of course the diagnosis… passed immediately onto her auditor. It took her about twenty-four hours to pull out of this thing.

The important phenomena – every once in a while you talk to a preclear they tell you rather shyly, „Well, yes, I get in and out of my body all the time. I… I thought there was something wrong with me.“ Or, „I’ve been trying to get into my body for the last twenty years and I haven t been able quite to make it.“ Or, „Yes, that’s the way I solve my problems. I step out of my body, think of the answer, and step back in again.“ And you’ll run into people who’ll tell you this, but they kept it kinda quiet, because this would have made them strange and peculiar and they didn’t want to be thought of in that category.

She was in terrible shape before I got hold of her. She wasn’t in bad shape then, as she was before but you get the idea. You spend four hours on the case and in the last two seconds of play, find out what’s wrong with the case and it’s too late and the body is too exhausted; the preclears body is too exhausted to continue processing. That happened to me, so it can happen to you. I m sure of it, because of this: you re never completely aware of this preclear because he figures time probably differently than you do. And you’ve gotta go to a lot of trouble to look over his bank in person and sort it all out and that s a lot of malarkey. You shouldn’t have to do that.

Furthermore, and get how important this is then, they had no existing technique that would heighten the condition, make them even more separable and less dependent on a body. And they had no existing techniques which could put them in a safe state with regard to a body. Bodies are very dangerous, extremely dangerous. Juggling dynamite or being a shooter in the oil well field, carrying nitroglycerin around… in your hip pocket, that is really less dangerous than packing a body around.

You put him on an E-Meter, you ask him an assessment, according to a rote procedure. It’s just one, two, three, four, five – you’re only asking him one real thing. You’re asking him, what can’t he create and what can’t he destroy? That s all you’re asking him – dynamic by dynamic. Dynamic by dynamic, what can’t he create, what can’t he destroy?

Uh… a body is a remarkable thing, but it’s a theta trap to end them all. You should be able to handle a body at a distance, handle it well, easily, make it sick, make it happy, make it sad, any way you want to. You should be able to do all these things. Without, at the same time having the liability of at any moment becoming a body. And thinking of yourself as only a body. That’s grim. That’s grim.

That could also be phrased as, what is he unwilling to create, what is he unwilling to destroy? In other words it’s a can’t assessment, and then you apply creative processing to what he can’t do.

When a thetan gets down to the level where he thinks of himself only as body, he’s on the minus zero scale. Because zero zero on that scale is being a body. He thinks he is as body. Now he goes subzero. Some people are at minus eight subzero and so forth. This accounts by the way for that strange variation you used to see on the tone scale all the time.

Now, you not only take an assessment when you begin the case, but you take an assessment after you’ve been working the case for a while. You work the case maybe four or five hours, take another assessment. Cause what s happened there is, you’ve gotten off the hottest factors. And the evaluation may have shifted so that the things which you assessed as can’ts before are too minor now to bother with. They’ve blown too, but there s some other can’ts that you didn’t ask about before which are ready to come up.

You remember you could always spot a preclear twice on a tone scale. You could spot him at one chronic level and then there was some other level that he kinda floated around on. This was sort of upsetting. What you were looking at there was you were spotting the thetan on the scale and you were spotting the thetan plus body on the scale. Thetan plus body is a bunch of social responses, stimulus response mechanisms that are built into the being by the society. He is a unit being. He is a thetan plus body plus two other things.

And… so… you take another assessment, and if you continue this process every few hours, to take an E-Meter assessment of the case, you’re in good shape with your case. And you’re making rapid progress, quite rapid. You’re just going along zippity zip and getting something done. You don’t suddenly find yourself stuck at four o’clock in the morning not being able to solve what’s wrong with this preclear. If you ever find yourself in that sort of a state of affairs you just didn’t take an assessment, that’s all.

And he is handleable. Outside flows can hit him and make him act in certain ways. He’s a sort of a puppet. But he is plottable on the tone scale. Now, oddly enough, that mechanism falls into the bracket of the tone scale of its society. If the society is at 2.5, this individual, as a composite being Homo sapiens in that society falls into a 2.5 stimulus response basis and travels the same cycle as the others, uh… his brothers in that society.

I taught myself that lesson very sharply and so, of course, I’m teaching it to you equally sharply.

If he suddenly were born in Africa, let’s say up in Morocco, where the thing to do is to shoot up the surrounding area and be wild and enthusiastic about certain things or something like that at 4.0 on the tone scale or 3.5 then his bank would be a stimulus response bank at 3.5 or 4.0. But let’s say… let’s say that he had lived on the Lower East Side in New York City and he’s living down there. Well, that’s what? That varies from 1.5 down to 1.1. That’s a kind of dog eat dog survival of the fittest and he would have a bank. His stimulus response mechanisms built-in mechanisms would be 1.1 or to 1.5 somewhere in that category. He was either the gang boss as a kid, or he was one of the mob. And he’s one or the other and he comes out as that character and he goes on reacting throughout the rest of his life in that character.

Ah… now, what is an assessment? You re gonna get this in much greater detail but I’ll just give you this just offhand. What is an assessment? Well, we just mark it up like this: this is an assessment. Create – destroy. Now this is a very elementary assessment I m giving you. There is a more complex assessment. This has some additional factors in it which merely put with create and destroy other related factors with create and destroy, and it simply permits you to do a more sensitive assessment. But this is still the basic assessment. The other just makes it a little better. This is the basic material, right here. Now that’s also in the center there, change. But you’ll find that for a crude first-run assessment, you re not too worried about what he can or can’t change. That’ll turn up.

Now in addressing his facsimiles and ridges only we can modify that character. We can modify it quite a bit, we can straighten it out quite a bit. But we never get him free till we get him out of his head.

He changes much more easily than he creates and destroys. So this is an assessment and the assessment merely wants to know what he can’t create and what he can’t destroy in terms of mock-ups, illusions, created mock-ups.

So you’re, theoretically, going to be engaged in the business of driving yourself and other people out of their minds or out of their heads. It’s not too hard to do that trick. But after you’ve done it, you have to know quite a bit.

All right, now let’s follow this a little bit further here and let’s look at create and let’s find an individual who can only create; he cannot destroy anything. He can’t destroy a thing; he can only create things. He could just create, and create, and create, and create. He’s insane. He… he… well, look what would happen to him. He couldn’t destroy anything, that would mean relatively he actually couldn’t part with anything. And so will his ridges be in that state. He can create and create and create and he’s holding on to everything. He’s… he’s just got everything stuck to him. He’ll be thick. He’ll register quite low on this machine.

The… uh… related fields of experience to the MEST universe, the codification of these related fields, so that they can be interchanged in processing, for instance, what’s space in terms of human experience? That’s a good question. What’s action in terms of nuclear physics? What’s time? Roughly, what’s Time? What’s time in terms of experience? Does time exist? And so on. How many degrees are there in a cycle of action. How many cycles of action are there? And how do they compare to the structure of the physical universe itself? These are all legitimate questions for which we now have the answers.

All right, so create, now over here, is destroy. And supposing you have somebody who can do nothing but destroy. He can’t create a thing. He can only destroy. Humph, he’s crazy, obviously. Well, we grant the fact that the person who can only destroy is crazy. But the person who would only create, is equally mad.

Having those answers makes this awfully easy. You can very easily overestimate the esotericness of this data. It is not. But because perhaps because the mind has never been studied before well, I could amend that. There then are some books that say the mind has been studied before, but then there are some books that say the riddle of the universe has long been solved elsewhere. And there’s also books that say that Mysticism will do something for you. And there’s all kind of books. There’s books about anything. But to get a direct study of the human mind, which had as its goal a desire to know the human mind, not to obscure or merely use the human mind, but to know the human mind.

There’s one difference between these two. A person who can only create will be found to be higher on the scale, ordinarily, than the person who can only destroy because you’re actually looking here from when you take create and destroy over here – if you were going to graph this on the tone scale – it would go down scale 20.0 over here to zero point zero.

We are dealing now with a precise subject. Because past studies have not been precise, it is very very simple for a student to make a very bad mistake in studying Scientology. He’s trying to fit it into a frame of reference. There’s no frame of reference you can fit it into. It’s its own study.

I mean, you just turn your Tone Scale up and make it horizontal and you’d have that graph on there. All right, this is… 20.0 which is maximum optimum action, which is in the center of it. Well now, a person then, to create and destroy would have here for sanity – theoretical, sanity of this individual depends on being able to create and destroy anything, not just in terms of illusion, and so on.

Now, you do have a point of reference to study it from. That’s you, end you have another point of reference from which to study – that’s the other people you know. And just looking at them as „X“s, let’s see if we can solve the „X.“ Just as though we didn’t know anything and just go on… on a… on a precision level, when we say „time is“ in Scientology, we mean „time is.“ We’re not trying to force apart all existence a definition. We’re trying to have a definition which is workable in Scientology and which accomplishes the goals of Scientology and it does accomplish those goals. And so we’re not interested whether or not this „time is“ definition necessarily holds true in the science of Mugwumpism, because we frankly have never studied or evaluated for its correctness the science of Mugwumpism.

Now when you understand that isn’t a philosophy of life. Fellow by the name of Friedrich Nietzsche wrote „Thus Spake Zarathustra“ which offers THIS as a philosophy of life. Nietzsche went mad and so will anybody go mad that tries to use that as a philosophy of life. For the good reason that it is too unlimited in the absence of a knowledge of this universe to be executable. It can’t be executed. And a person who can equally create and destroy anything finds himself associated with a group and has actually what could be considered to be the ninth dynamic which will be aesthetics. And the tenth dynamic, which would probably be ethics, if you were going to go way on out beyond this universe, saying that the eight dynamics we have apply to this universe.

But we have studied the human mind and we can theta clear people rather fast. So let’s just take it into this frame of reference only, and study it as a precision object. And then look into you as a reference point and to the people around you as a reference point, and to the social structure that you see as a reference point. Or at rocks, or trees, or suns, and see if that data applies to what you observe with your own eyes. That person who is the best observer will get the most out of these lectures. We’re not asking anybody to observe what has been observed. We’re just asking people, „This is the definition. Now, look and see if you can observe this. If you can’t observe this, perhaps it isn’t there, but if you can observe it, then it’s there.“

This universe knows nothing about ethics. Any time you get an ethic in this universe, it’s a moral, and they’re not similar. So that isn’t a code of existence or a philosophy of existence. Anybody who can do all this finds himself automatically moving in to the necessity for an ethic and so adopts an ethic: reasonable behavior, rational behavior.

Now, so, we’re asking for observation. Now to observe is… is quite a trick. It’s a sort of a clean slate principle.

But, for the purposes of assessment, it points up the bad spots in a person s abilities and disabilities. And it points up, every… what do you know, it points up every one of the bullpen data. And you get all the data sitting out here in the bullpen. „Should I have killed that little dog or shouldn’t I have killed that little dog. I shouldn’t of killed that little dog. Well I guess I oughta have killed that little dog. No, I couldn’t have killed that little dog. No, there’s a new datum that says I shouldn’t have killed the little dog.“

You don’t observe and say, „Let’s see how does this… how does this compare? Let’s see…“ he says, „Space is…“ and so on. „Now how does this compare with ancient uh… with ancient, ancient… uh… jud… uh… ism where the space was taken as the square root of the cube. But it’s on beyond the other side and that is the yam and the candied yamism. Uh… now how… how does candied yamism… uh… fit in and does that evaluate that?“ Now, it just doesn’t even vaguely, because you’re taking a precision, what has been formed to be by definition a precision. All these things are just by definition a precision and you’re applying it over here to an imprecise thing to wonder if it’s a precision.

You’ll find somebody who’s reading a book will very often write on the margins of the book. You go to the library and you can open up books at the library and you’ll find out a lot of these books at the library have marginal notes of the most ordinary material in them. It says, „God is good“ and that s all underscored and it’s routine. This person has taken this as a terribly vital data. And the next thing is „Bread is usually white in America and is black in other countries.“ big underscores under the thing. Ah… „Rocks are hard .“ Oh boy, big agreement.

There’s one way you can do this. You can do this and you can say, „Here is this precision and then over here is this imprecise thing, how much more precise thing do we have in Scientology than we have over here?“ Now that’s a good comparison and a good comparative level but that doesn’t either make valid Scientology or invalid candied yamism. The only thing that makes valid or invalid on the… if I tell you, „There is a chair. you are observing a chair.“ Now you could go on and think about all the chairs you have ever observed, but that is not the question. The question is, „There’s the chair and do you observe the chair there?“ Now that’s all.

And you look at this book and you wonder what idiot read this thing. Well, the guy wasn’t an idiot. He’s just got a bullpen over here and this bullpen requires the most ordinary reassurances in order to clear data.

So as a net result it’s actually too simple to observe and it escapes many people. It… it goes clear beyond them to observe, just look at something. And you’ll say, „There’s a chair there. Now can you feel that chair?“ Umm, all right, you can feel the chair, you can see the chair, and you can feel the weight of the chair and you can also feel the jolt when chair’s set back on the platform. That’s observation by perception direct.

People will read tomes of philosophy just to find one tiny little datum that will agree with what they need to clear a problem out of the bullpen. And they all of a sudden will pick up this datum and why, they say, „Somebody else said it and this person is well known and therefore it must be true so that clears the datum out of the bullpen. Now I don’t have to worry all this time about what I did with a washing machine wringer and grandma.“

It requires nothing, no knowledge of basic or elementary physics of the trial and error of balances and red side of the ledger of chairs. Nothing to do with that at all. It’s just whether or not you can experience the chair.

But it points what, it points right back to all the maybes of the case. Bullpen datum is a maybe. So we have to take the dynamics here. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, and eight. And over here we take one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, and eight. We just take those as such and we make an assessment of the case. We find out what he can’t create, can’t create, can’t create. We just ask about objects, and items, and conditions, underneath these dynamics under create. And we ask for objects, items, and conditions under destroy.

So therefore a great deal of this data may appear to you to be incomprehensible. If it appears to be incomprehensible for a moment, please do me this favor: and that’s… ask yourself, „Have I got this mixed up in some body of knowledge somewhere. Have I taken it over and planted it someplace else. Am I trying to look at it through the eyes of…?“

Now we watch the little needle and we mark it as it dives, and we just make a graph of this character; that s all there is to that graph. Ah… and there you have it.

Now, I’m not asking you to look at this subject through my eyes. There are two subjects here that I’m going to be talking to you about, just two, and one is „Scientology, a precise science of universes and beings therein or beings who make universes.“ Now, that’s one subject. And then there’s „Hubbard’s opinion of this subject.“ And boy, I got some wild opinions. You oughta hear them sometime. But that’s a different thing… that’s a different thing… and you can tell very easily when I swing over into my opinion, when I start talking about some field of healing or when I start to talk about this or that, it’s obviously a big slant and merely is my selection of randomity. Take it as amusing or evaluate by it or throw it away or anything. It doesn’t have anything really to do with Scientology. But the subject itself is actually a lot cleaner than a wolf’s tooth. I’ve examined a lot of wolve’s teeth and I’ve found out that they’re not too clean. And this subject is very clean though.

Now it s very simple, isn’t it? Now you apply mock-up processing to that. Now the reason I m giving you this material at this stage of the course… is just to give you an orientation on what s important as we go on through. There’s lots more to this. There s lots of basic reasons and so forth, but we’re giving you just the simple surface simplicity of this material showing you what we are studying.

It has been under development for a long time and has actually been a progressive development and examination of the agreements which came to bring about the MEST universe, and then became the science of how agreements are made, and then became what are the beings who make these agreements. And how can you start all this, from these basics. That’s where we are now.

Now, if you would come and sit down there and take these two cans in your hand, we will ask you what you are unwilling to create and destroy. Probably we will find all sorts of things here. I won’t ask any embarrassing questions ah… particularly.

Boy, if you don’t think you can’t do something with that, you oughta quit. Because you can do terrible things with this… you can do terrible things with this – just horrible – too grim for words. The only thing that’s a saving grace is a person comes way up the tone scale, his ethic level also comes way up. And is that fortunate! I have a couple of British auditors, and so forth, they… they said to me, they said, I said, „Well now speaking of sight in depth, it is one of the easier things to do, to penetrate clothing.“ And two of them looked at me rather astonished. And they said, „You think we hadn’t found that out?“

LRH: Have you got hold of the cans?

You know I was shocked, it hurt my morals right there, to think of those boys, and a girl there too sitting out in the park with their bodies home someplace, watching the pedestrians go by with sight in depth. That’s not nice. We must really remember to be moral above all other things.

PC: Uh-huh.

But you can do terrible, terrible things with this subject. You can also do very, very good things with this subject. And you’re going to find your preclears attempting some of the doggonest things with this subject. Right away you spring some preclear out of his body, he takes one look at the room, and he says… he’s actually about as weak as… as a kitten that’s born dead. But he thinks of himself in comparison with what he’s been, you see, he thinks of himself as a „huge being.“

LRH: Yes? Well, well, well, my goodness, you poor thing. Is there an undertaker in the house? That’s all right, look look here, you’re way up on the machine.

Oh boy, is he strong, is he powerful, and he’s going to go right over and knock out Russia. Yes sir! This afternoon he’s not going to tell you about it. He’s going to go home. And he’s found out he can do this and he’s all set, and he’s very hepped on it. And he goes home and he puts the body down on the couch. And he goes over and he tries to find the Kremlin and he finally finds the Kremlin. And he’s going to do this and that. And so what he tries to find Joe and something or other happens, that makes him upset.

See that? Hey you are… you re way up on the machine. Yeh, no trouble with that. Ah… Now that machine goes opposite to the E-meters which you have. In other words, your E-Meter falls that-a-way and rises that-a-way and this does the opposite. So we’ll bring this thing back here. And she shows that she has a rising tone here. Now she’s rising a little bit.

Location, space and time, he’s doing too many things at once. He ran into a pack of counter emotion…

LRH: How do you like explosions, huh? You like explosions? Have you seen an explosion recently?

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PC: No.

LRH: You haven t, huh? Have you ever experienced a violent explosion? Have you ever been caught in a violent explosion? Have you ever been caught in a violent explosion?

PC: Don t think so.

LRH: Isn’t that interesting? Look what we found on the machine right now. It doesn’t matter whether your preclear looks at this dial or not until he clunk… he can actually get out of his body and kick this machine around, much to the dismay of an auditor. But he really has to be out of his body to do it. If you… we re working on a instrument over in England, which is an instrument of proximity so your thetan can come near the instrument and you can actively, closely… ah… read the thetan… er… with a tiny little activation and so on. We’re working on this, I don’t know if it’ll ever develop or not. Where is it? How many years ago? That’s a Theta Bop in case you haven’t noticed it. I of course wouldn’t have picked you if I had suspected that was coming. Ah… all right, now what is it now? An explosion?

PC: I don’t think so.

LRH: Oh, no no. All right, how many years ago, order of magnitude? Tens? More than tens of years ago? We’re looking for an explosion. Now did it occur more than tens of years ago? Did it occur less than tens of years ago? Did it occur just a few years ago? How about a gas stove blowing up?

PC: No.

LRH: No, that wasn’t it? Oh, come now, come now, gas stove blowing up? What was it that blew up? City? Oh, oh… how many years ago? Tens of years ago? Now you’re getting there. Tens of years ago? Hundreds of years ago?

You can note as procedure on this meter that I m selecting out time rather than subject. The only reason I’m throwing subject in here is strictly for persiflage to amuse the preclear. The only thing I’m interested in is how many years ago did this occur.

LRH: All right, tens of years ago? Hundreds of years ago? More than hundreds? Thousands of years ago? Thousands? What did you get? You had a thought there.

PC: No

LRH: Are you refusing to think? Won’t do you any good. It sees all, knows all. Hundreds of years ago? Thousands of years ago? Tens of thousands of years ago? Tens of thousands of years ago? Hundreds of thousands of years ago? Is it hundreds of thousands? Millions of years ago? Millions of years ago? Billions of years ago? Boy, you’ve really got that thing balked, haven’t you? Well, let’s take the lock off of it – let’s get the gas stove explosion. What gas stove blew up? Come on, what?

PC: Not that I know of.

LRH: Come on, there s something startled you. Something blew up in your life some time or another. Did it? What… what startled you by blowing up? Nothing? How about fourth of July?

PC: I can’t think of.

LRH: Nope, not fourth of July.

Now that needle is trying to swing down to a stuck manifestation on this Theta Bop. That is a Theta Bop; that s not as clear as you’ll see Theta Bops, it’s not as good as. All right. Ah…

LRH: Is this the last life? Is this your last life? Immediately your last life? Is it your last death? How many years ago? All right, when I count from one to five, a number will flash. 1,2,3,4,5, (snaps his fingers) What?

PC: Nothing.

LRH: No, nothing flashed? Nothing flashed at all? Huh?

All right, now I found that Theta Bop, I m going to give her creative processing. We’ll see how that compares. We haven t actually located, necessarily, that we re in the middle of an explosion. All we’re getting a rising scale on the line and so on. I was just talking about that because of the way the meter reads. Might be something entirely different. Now we’re looking, however, for a body. We’re looking for a body.

LRH: How would you hate to have a body lying? What would be the worst place for a body to lie? Where? Open field? Body lying in an open field? Or a body lying in a house? A body lying in a temple? In an undertaking parlor? In a wreck? In a body dying on a hospital bed? What have you got? Now what did you used to have nightmares about as you were a little child? Buried alive?

Um? Used to have nightmares about being buried alive? What did you have nightmares about? Must have had nightmares about something? How about falling off cliffs? Ever have any nightmares about that? Don’t you ever remember a current recurring nightmare?

Evidently nothing worrying her on that score. All right, let’s do a little creative processing on there.

LRH: Now, you know what I mean by a mock-up? A-mock up is simply something you make which you know is yours and know that you made. That’s all. Ah… let’s have an illusion.

Now, let’s put a small man out here and know you made him. You got him? You can do it with your eyes closed if you want to. You know you made him? Is he yours? Got him? Make him jump up in the air.

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: Got him jumping up in the air?

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: Well, make him jump in the air so hard he goes through this floor and onto the next floor. Make him do that?

LRH: Huh? Did he do it? Is he having a rough time getting through the ceiling?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Huh?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Cut a hole out of the ceiling, cut a hole out of the ceiling and have him jump through the hole. Now you can make him do that can’t you?

PC: Hmmm…

LRH: HHHMM?

PC: He seems to be fading out.

LRH: Well, put him back again.

PC: While I’m cutting a hole in the ceiling, that is.

LRH: Oh, while you re cutting a hole in the ceiling. Well, can’t you just say there’s a hole in the ceiling and have it appear there?

PC: Uh-huh

LRH: Okay, now that was just a test. Thank you. Now, just hold on to the cans there.

Ah… trying to find degree of agreement with the physical universe. We tried a little man. Mocked up a little man all right; but jump in the air and go through a solid object? Uh-uh… and when we had to cut a hole out of the ceiling, we had to saw the hole out. Real agreement with the physical universe.

LRH: Okay. Now let s talk about in terms of creation. If you could, let us say that you could create things which would just appear and so forth and if you were doing that sort of thing would you, could you create your own body again?

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: You can create your own body? Ah… how about creating a whole set of memories for yourself?

PC: Yeah

These are the four parts of the body.

LRH: Uh… how about creating something that would control the body for you? The GE.

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: How about creating an energy unit which would… uh… spark and bop and take care of all of all of that, do your thinking for you? How about creating that?

PC: Uh-huh.

The four component parts of the first dynamic (1) the standard memory banks, (2) the… the pardon me, first the thetan, most important, then your standard memory banks, then your GE – genetic entity, and the genetic entity s reactive mind. But the genetic entity’s reactive mind is a series of ridges we know as the body, the greater and lesser complexity of the reactive mind. Well, there’s the thetan. And what the thetan is using is standard banks which consist of a lot of ridges, and more or less automatic stuff, and a lot of stuff. And then there’s your GE, and what your GE is using and actually what your GE is using is a body; and the body is matter made out of ridges, according to theory here. And therefore the reactive mind is the body and does behave that way as we learned in the first book. And that first book still works. Okay?

Now we’ve covered those four sections and we’ve gotten nothing alarming on this E-Meter. Good.

LRH: On the second dynamic, on the second dynamic would you create exotic and esoteric scenes for your own edification and… sensation?

PC: Sex act.

LRH: All right, now we’ve got… remember that second dynamic s composed of two parts. First part of the second dynamic is sex as an act and the other part is children. Now how about little kids? Could you, would you, create a little child?

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: Uh-huh. So one half of the second dynamic is by the boards. What are you dropping on there? What did you think of. Hey hey, what did you think of? That s too personal, huh?

PC: No.

LRH: Well, you shouldn’t a done it. Is that on children?

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: Tell me about children. You did something mean to a kid once, didn’t you? Well what did you think of? Your mother? Your mother having children?

PC: Uh-uh.

LRH: What did you think of? Come on?

PC: Miscarriage.

LRH: Um?

PC: A miscarriage.

LRH: Uh-hum. Just ornery of me to make you say it. Yah, sure. Okay, so we got that one too. Huh? So we have ah… children and a… a block of some sort on that line. Okay? Because we get a needle reaction. That had slipped your mind hadn’t it?

PC: The miscarriage?

LRH: Yeah. When I first asked the question, did it come into your mind? When did you think of it? When I said children you didn’t connect it to that?

PC: No, uh-uh.

LRH: Is that what happened? And then afterwards you thought it over and suddenly connected the miscarriage with children? And that’s why you got the delayed reaction on the machine. Okay.

All right, now we’ve got that run. So I’ll tell you right away, creative processing addressed to the second dynamic on the creation of mock-ups relating to from which he can get sexual sensations, mock-ups until we can be perfectly at ease on this line. And I don’t think you’ll find the preclear anyplace that is in good shape on that one. And she is strangely enough in a little darn better shape than most preclears according to the needle reaction.

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